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Post by maxgoh Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:19 pm

firstly, so sorry for those english educated members. the article is too long to translate:-



The article is copied from a chinese forum.

◎◎◎---Canon 篇---◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎

◎自2005年以後至今Canon發售了12新機種DSLR,其中公佈有5機種發生了品質不良。
(350D圖像消失、5D反光鏡脫落、1D/1Ds MKIII AF,反光鏡有問題、5D MKII黑點問題)
同一時期對手Nikon連一台都沒公佈,
生產數量較少的Olympus及SONY也沒有公佈品質不良產品。

◎自2005年起世界市場在3年間持續擴大。特別是DSLR每年平均持續成長25%,
雖然數家廠家注力於此有望市場,但根本無法動搖Canon,Nikon 2強的市佔率。
特別是首位的Canon,連輕便DC也是世界首位。
07年相機部門的利益率更是對手Nikon、SONY等將近一倍的26.7%。
且包含DSLR全機種的數位相機約70%,
是由100%子公司 Canon大分的日本國內工廠所生產。
比起在海外生產或OEM的其他廠商,這個生產體制非常特別。
Canon在人件費昂貴的日本生產,還能有壓倒性的高利益率更令人驚訝,
但Canon發生的頻繁產品不良問題,
卻是讓長年來被信奉為高品質代名詞「Made in Japan」受到動搖的痛苦現實。

◎Canon的主力相機工廠在日本大分縣。
一個是82年被建設的大分Canon安岐事業所。
另一個是在05年開始運作大分事業所。
在這2個工廠製造著Canon 接近7成的相機。
低價位的輕便型數位相機在中國和馬來西亞的工廠製造,
但在大分工廠製造著全部的SLR。
支撐著大分Canon的,是平時以數千人規模在製造現場作工作的外包工人(外包公司職員)。
大分Canon的正式職員與期間公司職員主要是負責製造管理和工具維護保養以及組裝以外的業

務,
而實際生產、組裝的是由日研總業、Technosmile等外包公司的職員來進行。

◎今年初開始在大分事業所COMS(畫像感光元件)模組組裝線工作的30代男性,
這樣回顧現場的情況:「從其他公司的工廠來Canon時,覺得無塵室很髒 ,
雖不是到驚人的程度,不過與以前的工廠比的話感到有差距」
他的工作是將LPF(低通濾波器)壓接到COMS上的模組組裝,
這是必須在不允許絲毫塵埃的無塵室進行的作業。
然而,在大分Canon的2個事業所,工作者沒戴口罩。
據說在無塵室內也一樣。
一方面依Canon公關的說明:「我們的判斷是即使沒戴口罩,也不會影響品質」,`
但自那位在現場工作的30代外包公司職員,
卻聽到不一致的意見「無塵室塵埃多。經常在壓接的時候有塵埃進入,
致使模組變得不良」。

◎另外在大分事業所工作的20代女性表示:
「在日光燈的光下,有時候眼睛就看得見空氣中塵埃飄舞」。
雖然無塵室被要求的清淨度的水準,半導體,醫藥品,食品等根據製造種類不同而有不同的差

異。
但相機的方面,除了是半導體的畫像感光元件(CCD,CMOS)的製造工程外,
並不是那麼嚴厲的被要求無塵度。
但也不可能有所謂的「塵埃飄舞的無塵室」。
根據無塵室設計者的意見「無塵室的要求水準是測量在大氣中有多少0.5um的超微小塵埃。
另外有簡單的「無可視塵」設備,不過這種不能稱為無塵室。
但看到塵埃飄舞這種情況,根本就不像話了」。
為什麼會有這種超出常識的情形被放任?
是因為在無塵室內部,不是Canon能管轄的。
外包的契約規定是業務委託公司(Canon)不能對現場工作的外包公司職員作直接指示或命令。
假如直接指示,就構成假業務外包(偽裝請負)違反了勞動者派遣法。

假如是在04年,Canon採用的是派遣員工,Canon可以做直接指示。
但在08年底的現在,Canon沒有採用派遣員工。
因為(日本法律規定)連續在同一業務工作3年以上的派遣員工,
公司有直接僱用的義務。
Canon為了順應生產量的調整,所以已不使用派遣員工。

而借力外包公司的人力,就等於在家廠房中進駐了它公司,
雖說是Canon自家工廠內,但以金屬架或膠帶隔開的另一邊已變成是它公司的所有地,
Canon對那塊地區只有非常有限的管理權限。

◎Canon的員工原則上不能進無塵室。
前面那位30代男性透露「無塵室的上部有窗戶,
約每週一次Canon的上層會隔著窗戶來做視察,
只有這時才會在事前做將工作台擦拭乾淨等之類的整理工作。
生產現場只有外包公司的人,平常的管理基本上很隨便」。

◎只要是大分Canon的有關人員,都知道發生在07年10月的事件。
事件發生在安岐事業所的相機組裝線上。
外包公司的工作者在嚴禁煙火的工作場使用了打火機,導致揮發性的溶劑引火。
火勢一口氣的就延燒了。生產線也一時完全停擺。
在現場工作的外包公司職員透露
「為了遮住相機機身的塑料的瑕疵,用打火機去烤的方法被非正式共有」。
Canon公關針事件對此事的說明是:「我們知道火災這件事,
是外包公司的管理過鬆所引起的事件,
但即使發生這樣的事,在契約上,Canon也不能進行人身或攜帶物品檢查,
只能靠外包公司的自主管理。」承認了外包契約所產生的管理上界限。

◎假如外包公司有提高產品品質的態度的話,上述的無塵室清潔及打火機等問題就不會發生。
去年底為止在大分事業所工作的20代女性透露,
有一次,她誤將壓接在感光元件上的crystal plate正反面顛倒的裝上了,
他去問外包公司主管怎麼辦,得到的答案是「這是舊機種所以檢查較鬆,
就這樣出去吧」還半開玩笑的警告:「但是,不要說向我報告過」。
對最終產品的品質根本不在乎。

◎與Canon簽約的外包公司日研總業,
目前有像「製品品質異常對策規定」「誤捆包發生時的對策」等20種的作業手冊,
但這些手冊有一個共同點,
就是各手冊條文的最後一條都是「附則 此要領由2008年12月1日起開始實施」。
今年2月底為止負責製造及出缺席管理了老外包員工透露
「由於去年夏季生產線發生太多不良產品,
所以日研總業才在12月製作了這些作業手冊,之前是沒有任何作業手冊的。
但無塵室內用的作業手冊到現在(2009年2月底時點)還沒有」
(也就是說在2008年12月之前.這些外包員工是在沒有任何需要遵循的作業處理程序下進行生產

工作)
即使外包公司在沒有正式的作業手冊的狀況下進行作業,
Canon也只能閉嘴。
Canon公關表示:「在外包契約上,外包公司要不要製作作業手冊是外包公司自己的事,
Canon除了品質及交貨時間外沒有說話的餘地。」

◎一位工作是主管助理員的30歲外包女性員工透露
「最頭痛的是螺絲、貼紙之類的材料(零組件),永遠是只給我們剛剛好的數量,
所以工作現場永遠是有什麼材料是不夠的。」
但「即使向Canon申請追加材料時,
回答一定是『不是有不合格品嗎,想辦法去活用』」。
因不合格被打下來的製品中,還是有可用的零組件,
就將它們分解再利用。

假如發生了較大量不良產品時,
原因是Canon提供的材料(零組件)有問題,還是外包公司組裝時的問題,
雙方要進行會議來確定是誰的責任,假如錯在外包公司時,
外包公司就要負責不良產品的費用,所以雙方態度強硬。
「雙方都不想負責,所以這類交涉基本上是平行線沒有結果,
那怎麼辦?很明顯能知道是該那邊負責任的就那邊負責,
但有一些灰色地帶(分不出誰負責?)的產品,有時就乾脆讓它通過了。」
因為只要讓它通過了,就不是不良品,也就沒有誰要負責的問題了。

Canon公關對發表的不良產品增加的回答是:「
每個機種的原因都不同,不是塵埃,也不是作業員的水準。
是我們即使是小問題也會負責任的公佈,而不是最近不良產品增加了」

◎會發生以上的問題,最主要的原因就是Canon徹底的成本管理。
借力外包公司,結果與製造現場的資訊傳達成了隔靴搔癢的狀態。
諷刺的是,選擇在日本國內生產,結果反而是離生產現場更遙遠。
在高成本的日本國內生產,還能維持凌駕它廠高利益率的Canon,
在生產體制上是否有無理強求的地方?
但可確定的是相繼發生的不良產品問題,告訴我們一定是那裡有異常的問題存在。
----
◎◎◎---Nikon篇---◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎
◎在泰國古都大城(Ayutthaya)市市中心開車約十分鐘的郊區,
是泰國代表性的外銷基地之一的洛察納(ROJANA)工業區所在地。
本田、日立,Panasonic等70家日系公司的工廠進駐其中。
Nikon 負責製造的子公司Nikon 泰國也在此地。
Nikon DSLR、交換鏡頭產品的約9成是由同工廠負責生產。
「D3」等專業頂級機種目前仍在日本的仙台Nikon工廠生產,
但這算是例外了。
也就是說泰國大城(Ayutthaya)已經是Nikon DSLR的主力工廠。

◎泰國工廠內佔地最大的是相機的組裝工程,
要進入這個廠房一定要穿上包覆全身的工作服,再戴上帽子及口罩。
廣大的製造生產線,排列了一排女性員工依外殼、感光元件模組,電路板的順序組裝著相機。
兩班輪替一天約23小時的生產時間。
雖然是流水線,但不使用輸送帶,而是用手傳遞。
作業時間中,有定時的休息時間,
這時會先播放輕快的流行音樂,是3首不到一分鐘的曲子。
當音樂開始響起時,全體停止作業,一起進行清潔工作。
手中拿著藍色或粉紅色的拭布,擦拭燈管,工作台然後是地面,
隨著不同曲子,變換擦拭的地方,之後才休息。
這樣的清潔工作一班要做5次,兩班制所以一天等於做了10次清潔。

◎Nikon 泰國工廠員工,在2月底的時點約有一萬多人,
其中正社員約8000多人,其他是派遣社員,
這些派遣社員是調整僱用的調節閘門,
最忙的時期派遣社員曾高達7000人,
但去年秋季起由於銷售減退現在減少為2000人。
沒有日本所說的外包公司職員。

◎約8000名的泰國人正社員不是只單純的是工廠作業員,
進行管理的也是泰國人。
每位管理職的正社員負責指揮約10-20名的作業員。
當製造現場出狀況時,需馬上去解決。
比起日本外包公司那種複雜的指揮系統,
在這裡是簡單明快太多了。
管理職的76人中有45人是泰國人。
都是長年在此工作的有經驗員工,
連部長級中也有3人是泰國人。
例如在鏡頭製造部,指揮2300個部下的就是一位36歲的泰籍主管。
Nikon 泰國設立於1991年,
工作年數超過10年的正社員約800人,
職員的流動性低。
當中也有不少是被喻為是泰國的東大的朱拉隆功大學(Chulalongkorn University)機械系出身

優秀技術人員。

◎不只是日本Nikon 社員到泰國傳授技術,
也有反向的互動,
當新產品開始研發或開動階段,
就會派約30名的泰國員工到製造專業機種及生產時檢查機器的日本仙台Nikon研修,
停留時間為3個月到半年。
除了實習新產品的組裝及負責領域的最新技術外,
也將生產現場的意見反映給研發部門,
例如各種組裝程序分配的時間是否適當,
各個零組件在組裝時,以生產現場的立場看是否合理等在生產現場的意見反映給研發部門。

由於這種互動,Nikon 泰國也逐漸的成長茁壯,
例如生產相機時的檢查機器或自動調整器等,
是影響產品品質重要要素的裝置。
以往這些裝置全部都是在日本仙台Nikon製造,再送到泰國使用。
但這幾年工學畢業的現地社員們也開始自製了。
雖然是以較簡單的裝置為主,但目前這類製造相機的基本設備,
有約2成是Nikon 泰國自製的。

為了日本國內還保留有生產現場的象徵目的,
Nikon 沒有關掉仙台Nikon的預定。
但隨著泰國員工在日本研修而累積高度技術能力成為有經驗過程。
以往需要日本仙台或栃木工廠牽著手走的泰國工廠,
現在也逐漸開始能獨當一面了。

◎日本國內的人件費與中國等亞洲國家比的話,大概是接近10倍。
對日本製造業而言,基本上已都是海外生產。
但對Nikon 來說,卻不是如此。
回看歷史,Nikon是以製造軍需品起步的,
第一次世界大戰暴發時,
日本軍方自歐洲調度測距儀、望遠鏡等光學儀器出現困難。
在1917年受到日本帝國海軍的要求,
三菱財閥岩崎小彌太創立了日本光學工業也就是現在的Nikon。
因此在Nikon的傳統是以技術能力自豪,
將性能比成本看得更優先。
所以要將主要工廠移到海外,
比起它廠都消極。

70年代Canon在台灣設立了首個海外生產據點,
開始將相機的生產分散出海外,
但Nikon在91年才在泰國設立了首家海外工廠,
且最初的十多年只是生產一般等級的鏡頭。
最多只當成是日本主工廠水戶、仙台等的輔助工廠罷了。
真正將泰國工廠升級為主力工廠也只是這2,3年的事。
2004年的D70開始才在泰國生產。
至今連D300高級機種也在泰國生產了。
Nikon 泰國在07年的營業額也擴大為2000年的8倍。

Nikon 苅穀道郎社長表示:
「檢查機器或自動調整器等製造相機的基本設備都是由日本送過來的,
新產品生產時,也自仙台派人來指導,加上泰國人很認真,與日本生產沒有兩樣」

「泰國人的忠誠心之高,讓人驚訝。
例如在同工業區中,像本田等公司的薪水高很多,
但泰國 Nikon裡卻有很多人長年留著,沒有跳槽。
讓這樣的人來生產的泰國製產品,品質絕對不可能差。甚至還比日本製好。」

「03-04年時,D2H,D70等相繼發生了不良產品問題,
但之後幾乎沒有類似問題發生了,
2005年在泰國工廠導入了生產履歴管理系統(トレーサビリティシステム,
每個產品是在何時,那裡、那個生產線的那個批號,
甚至是在那裡修理過,全部都能查出。
當品質面發生問題時,馬上能反映給生產現場進行改善。
與80年代我還在品管部門工作時比較,
現在產品在保修期間的故障回修率,已降到1/10了。
很明顯Nikon產品的品質是有改善。」

「不管是在那裡生產 Made by Nikon是不變的」。

◎◎◎---總結篇---◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎◎
Nikon 苅穀道郎社長在05年上任後。
推出的D40,D3,D300等機種相繼受到好評,
世界市佔率由06年的38%在08年增加為39.5%。
同時期首位的Canon由47.4%跌至40.7%,
2廠的差距大幅的拉近。

70年代就開始海外生產的Canon,在05年突然改變方針回歸日本國內。
另一方面,91年才開始海外設廠,到03年以後才隨著DSLR風行,一口氣的推進海外生產的

Nikon。
2個競爭對手採取的生產體制策略,可說是完全對比。

但這個結果讓Canon對匯率的敏感度(匯率變動對業績的影響度)比其他精密業界同行高相當多


當日圓對美金匯率升值10日圓時,全公司營業利益會減多少?
Canon是減少56.9%
Nikon是減少18.2%
Olympus是減少28%
Ricoh是減少13%
(數據為日本摩根證券的調查結果)

當日本結束了1美元=120日圓 低日圓時代的今日,
在日本國內生產對日本外銷型企業而言還有多少的意義呢?
日本摩根證券分析師森山久史道:
「日圓貶值的05年,在日本國內生產時,
研發與生產現場距離接近,及物流費用可削減等可提高效率化。
但這5,6年來IT環境已經很發達,
研發與生產現場的物理距離也不像以前有那麼大的影響了,
在日本國內製造的意義越來越沒有了」

不過,Canon也有更遠大的策略,
Canon的目標是接近無人的自動化工廠。
只要確立以機器人來生產的體系,就可不用在乎人件費來設廠。
Canon產品主要需求地是日本及歐美等先進國。
假如能設廠在這些高人件費的高消費國裡,
不但可削減物流費且對需求的變動可迅速的對應。

現在Canon的 大分工廠正處於走向自動化工廠的過渡期,
但去年秋後急速的日圓升值,
再加上去年年底因裁減非正式員工的問題受到日本國內的批判。
在走向理想的無人化工廠之前,已被潑了冷水。
也讓人痛感要在日本國內生產產品的門檻之高。

到底在日本國內的製造還能持續下去嗎,
Canon被暴露出來的課題,
對(仍堅持在日本製造的)Panasonic,Sharp也是共通的。
「Made in Japan」可說是面臨著前所未有的阻力。
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為了追求利益、在產品cost down方面CANON有點做過頭
連旗艦級的1Ds系列的品質都出現問題
比起Nikon都還是自家生產,居然也產出這種品質、這樣的品管
Canon利潤率居然在20%以上
看一下從業人數,Canon居然正式員工還是Nikon的1/3而已.. 真的是賺狠大
怎麼對得起那樣多支持Canon的用戶



看完這篇報導

良心的建議是

買Canon的股票
然後買Nikon的產品
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◎ ◎ ◎ --- Canon 篇 --- ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎

◎ since 2005 has Canon on sale of 12 new models DSLR, of which there are five models released have taken place in poor quality.
(350D image disappears, 5D mirror detached, 1D/1Ds MKIII AF, mirrors a problem, 5D MKII black spots problem)
Nikon with the same period a no opponent announced
Produced a smaller number of Olympus and SONY has not yet announced poor quality products.

◎ since 2005 the world market in three years, continued to widen. Especially the DSLR continues to grow an annual average of 25%,
Although several manufacturers are expected to inject power of this market, but simply can not shake the Canon, Nikon 2 strong market share.
In particular, the first of the Canon, even the lightweight DC is also in the world.
In 2007 the interest rate of the camera department is rival Nikon, SONY and so on for nearly double the 26.7%.
DSLR-wide models and includes a digital camera for about 70%,
Is a 100% subsidiary of Canon's Oita facility in Japan produced.
Compared to overseas production or OEM to other manufacturers, this production system is very special.
Canon in the human pieces of expensive Japanese production costs, but also of high interest rates there is overwhelming even more surprising,
But the Canon product is the problem of frequent occurrence,
It is to be believed so long synonymous with high-quality "Made in Japan" should be shaken, the painful reality.

◎ Canon's main camera plant in Oita Prefecture, Japan.
One is the construction of 82 years has been the cause of Oita Canon Aki.
Another operation in the 2005 Oita cause.
In the two factories manufacturing for nearly 7 percent of the Canon cameras.
Low cost compact digital cameras in China and Malaysia, manufactured,
However, in Oita manufactured with all of the SLR.
Oita Canon supports, is usually to the scale of thousands of people working in the manufacturing site for outsourcing workers (outsourcing company employees).
Oita Canon's official staff and staff during the period was mainly responsible for manufacturing management and tools for maintenance and assembly outside the industry

Services,
The actual production and assembly of the overall study by the Japanese industries, Technosmile such as outsourcing the company's staff to carry out.

◎ beginning of the year in Oita, the cause of COMS (image sensor) module assembly line work on behalf of 30 men,
This situation recalls the scene: "From other companies factories to Canon, I felt that clean rooms are dirty and
Although it is not to an alarming extent, but compared with the previous plant, then feel the difference "
His job is to LPF (low pass filter) on the pressure receiving COMS module assembly,
This must not allow the slightest dust in the clean room to conduct operations.
However, in Oita Canon's two cause, the worker did not wear a mask.
It is said that clean rooms, too.
The one hand, according to Canon PR states: "We judge that even if the did not wear a mask, it will not affect the quality", `
However, since the 30 who work in the field on behalf of the outsourcing company employees,
Heard conflicting views and "clean room more than dust. Often when there is dust crimping enter
Resulting module becomes bad. "

◎ Also in Oita on behalf of the cause of the work of 20 women said:
"In the fluorescent light under the eyes sometimes see dust in the air Piaowu."
Although the clean room are required to clean-degree level, semiconductors, pharmaceuticals, food and other different types according to the manufacturer while the difference between different

Different.
But the camera, in addition to the portrait of photosensitive semiconductor devices (CCD, CMOS) manufacturing projects,
Is not so severe degrees are required to clean.
But there can be no so-called "dust Piaowu of the clean room."
Clean room according to the designer view "the requirements of clean room standards is a measure of the number of 0.5um in the atmosphere of the ultra small dust.
In addition there is a simple "no visible dust" devices, although this can not be called clean rooms.
But seeing dust Piaowu this case, there is simply outrageous. "
Beyond the knowledge of why this situation had been allowed to?
Because in the clean room inside, not the Canon can be regulated.
The contractual provisions of outsourcing is the business entrusted to the company (Canon) does not work on-site outsourcing company staff to make a direct instruction or order.
If the direct instructions, they constitute a pseudo-business process outsourcing (disguised please negative) violated the Worker Dispatching Law.

If it is in 2004, Canon uses a dispatch staff, Canon can do direct instructions.
But in the end of 2008 the present, Canon did not use to send staff.
Because (Japanese law) in the same row operations three years or more to send employees,
Company has direct employment obligations.
Canon In order to conform to the adjustment of production, it is no longer used to send staff.

While leveraging the outsourcing company's human, it means at home and workshop in the presence of its companies,
Although it is Canon's own factories, but the metal frame or tape has become separated from the other side is that it's all the land,
Canon bones, where only a very limited administrative privileges.

◎ Canon employees in principle to enter a clean room.
30 on behalf of the men who had earlier said that, "the upper part of a clean room windows,
Canon is about once a week will be separated from the upper windows to do inspections,
Only then will table in advance so will wipe clean, etc. sort of finishing the work.
Production site is only outsourcing company's people, they are basically the management of very casually. "

Oita Canon ◎ long as the persons concerned are aware of occurred in the October 2007 events.
Aki cause occurred in camera assembly line.
Outsourcing the company's workers in the workplace is prohibited use of fireworks lighter, resulting in volatile solvents pyrophoric.
The spread of the fire breath. 1:00 is also completely shut down production lines.
Working in the field of outsourcing staff to disclose
"In order to cover the flaws in the plastic camera body, to go with a lighter roast of the method is informal there."
Canon PR-pin description of the incident on the matter is: "We know that the fire this matter,
Outsourcing company's management too loose caused by events,
But even such a thing happened, in the lease, Canon can not be physical or carrying goods inspection,
Outsourcing company to rely on self-administration. "Recognition of outsourcing the management of contracts arising from the boundaries.

◎ If the outsourcing company to improve product quality and the attitude, the above-mentioned clean room clean and lighters, the problem does not occur.
End of last year in Oita on behalf of the cause of the work of 20 women revealed that
On one occasion, she was mistakenly connected to the photosensitive element pressure on the crystal plate is loaded upside-down on the negative,
Outsourcing company executives to ask him how to do, the answer is "This is the old models so check the more loose,
So go out bar "also half-jokingly warning:" But, do not say to me reported. "
The quality of the final product did not care.

◎ outsourcing company contracted with the Canon nikken general industry,
There are currently as "product quality abnormal response provides" "error response occurs strapping" and other 20 kinds of operations manuals,
However, these manuals have one thing in common,
The provisions of the handbook is the last one is "Supplementary Provisions of this gist from December 1, 2008 implementation date."
Until the end of February this year, is responsible for manufacturing and out of the absence of outsourcing the management of the old employees to disclose
"As the production line took place last summer, too bad products,
Therefore, nikken in December before the overall industry produced these operations manual, there is no prior operating manual.
But the clean indoor operations manual up to now (point by the end of February 2009) also no "
(That is, until in December 2008. These outsourced employees, without any need to follow the operating procedures carried out under the production

Work)
Even if the outsourcing company operating in the absence of a formal manual under the situation of operation,
Canon can only shut up.
Canon Communications, said: "In the outsourcing contract, the outsourcing company to not outsourced production operations manual is the company's own thing
Canon In addition to quality and delivery time did not speak outside the room. "

◎ assistant in charge of a job is outsourced to 30-year-old female employee to disclose
"The most headache is the screws, sticker-like material (components), will always be good only to we have just the number of
Therefore, there is always a work site what material is not enough. "
But "even if the application to the Canon supplementary materials,
Answer must be defective 『do not have to find ways to utilize』. "
Been beaten down because of substandard products in, there are still available components,
They will break down and reuse.

Should there be a relatively large amount of bad product,
The reason is Canon to provide materials (components) there is a problem, or issue of outsourcing companies, when assembled,
The two sides to conduct meetings to determine who is ultimately responsible, if the wrong outsourcing company,
Outsourcing company must charge the cost of bad products, so their attitudes are tough.
"Both sides do not want to, so it is essentially parallel lines of such negotiations do not result,
Then how to do? It is clear to know the other side on the other side responsible for,
But there are some gray areas (not tell who is responsible?) Products, sometimes just let it passed. "
Because as long as it is passed, it is not bad products, there is no question of who should be responsible.

Canon delivered the bad public relations of the products increase the answer is: "
Each machine are different kinds of reasons, not dust, nor the Operator level.
Even a small problem is that we will be a responsible publication, rather than the recent increase in non-performing products, "

◎ the above problems occur, the most important reason is that Canon thorough cost management.
Leverage outsourcing company, results and create the scene became nowhere near enough information to convey the state.
Ironically, the choice in Japan, domestic production, the result will be more remote from the production site.
In the high-cost domestic production in Japan, but also override it works to maintain a high interest rate of Canon,
In the production system, whether there is unreasonable demand that place?
However, to determine the successive occurrence of adverse product problems, tell us there must be unusual problems.
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◎ ◎ ◎ --- Nikon chapter --- ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎
◎ the ancient capital of Ayutthaya in Thailand (Ayutthaya) about ten minutes to drive downtown area of the suburbs,
Representative of the export base in Thailand, one of the Luo Chana (ROJANA) industrial zone is located.
Honda, Hitachi, Panasonic and other 70 Japanese companies stationed in the factory where.
Nikon is responsible for manufacturing here in Thailand is also a subsidiary of Nikon.
Nikon DSLR, the exchange of the lens into the product by about 9 by the same factory in charge of production.
"D3" professional top-models are still Nikon Sendai plant in Japan,
But be exception.
In other words, Thailand Ayutthaya (Ayutthaya) is Nikon DSLR's main factory.

◎ factory covers an area of Thailand is the biggest camera assembly engineering,
To enter the factory must be put on the overalls clad body, and then wear a hat and mask.
Majority of manufacturing production lines, arranged in a row of women employees in accordance with shell, light-sensitive components, modules, circuit board assembly of the order of the camera.
2 liner for about 23 hours a day production time.
Although the pipeline, but do not use the conveyor belt, but by hand delivery.
Operation time, there are regular rest periods,
Then light will first play of the pop music, is 3 less than one minute song.
When the music began to rings, all the stoppage, with the cleaning work.
The hands holding a blue or pink swab cloth, wipe the lamp, table and then the ground,
With a different tune, changing the local wipe, then before going to bed.
This group of cleaning work to be done five times, two shifts a day is equal to do so 10 times cleaner.

◎ Nikon Thai employees from the plant by the end of February at the point of time there are about 10000 people,
Of which are members of about 8,000 people, others are sending their members,
The dispatch of members is to adjust the regulation of employment of the gate,
The busiest period of the dispatch was as high as 7,000 members,
However, since last fall due to diminished sales are now reduced to 2,000.
Japan has said there is no outsourcing staff.

◎ approximately 8,000 members of the Thai people are not just mere factory workers, and
Management is also Thai.
Each member is responsible for managing the command post is about 10-20 members of the Operator.
When the manufacturing site out of position, the need to immediately to resolve.
Compared to the Japanese outsourcing company that complex chain of command,
Here is a simple, clean too much.
Management level of the 76 people, 45 were Thai.
Are all long experienced in this work, staff,
Even the ministerial level also has three were Thai.
For example, in lens manufacturing department, commanding 2,300 men is a 36-year-old Thai director.
Nikon Thailand was established in 1991,
Work-years more than 10 years are members of about 800 people,
Staff mobility is low.
There are a lot of that has been hailed as Thailand's Chulalongkorn University, East large (Chulalongkorn University) Department of Mechanical Engineering background

Excellent technical staff.

◎ Japan Nikon members not only to Thailand to teach technology,
There are also reverse interaction,
When the new products began to research and development or starting phase,
It will send about 30 workers in Thailand to manufacture and production of professional models check the machine in Sendai, Japan Nikon training,
Residence time of 3 months to six months.
In addition to practice and is responsible for the assembly of new products on the latest technology,
The production site will also be reflected to the R & D department,
For example, the time allocated for a variety of assembly processes whether it is appropriate
The various components in the assembly to produce the position of the scene to see if reasonable, etc. reflect the views of the production site to the R & D department.

Because of this interaction, Nikon Thailand has also gradually grow strong
For example, when the production of the camera automatically adjusts the inspection machine or device, etc.
An important factor affecting the product quality device.
The past, these devices are all manufactured in Japan, Sendai Nikon, and then sent to Thailand to use.
But years of engineering graduates are now members are beginning to self-made.
Although mainly based on relatively simple devices, but such basic equipment manufacturing cameras,
Nikon Thailand about two described as self-made.

In order to retain production in Japan is also a symbol of the purpose of the site,
Nikon Sendai Nikon did not turn off the target.
However, with the Thai workers in Japan, a high degree of technical skills training and the accumulated experience into the process.
Sendai, Japan, or the past, need to hold hands walking Tochigi factory in Thailand plant
Are now gradually began to be able to work independently of the.

◎ people pieces of fees in Japan and China and other Asian countries than it would probably be close to 10 times.
Japan's manufacturing sector, basically all overseas production.
But for Nikon, is not the case.
Looking back at history, Nikon is a manufacture of munitions started,
Of World War I erupted,
Japanese military from Europe scheduling range finder, binoculars and other optical instruments difficult.
In 1917 by the Japanese Imperial Navy's requirements,
Mitsubishi zaibatsu Iwasaki Koyata founded the Japanese optical industry is now Nikon.
Therefore, Nikon has traditionally been the technological capabilities of pride,
Will see higher priority than cost performance.
Therefore, the main factories to move overseas,
Negative than its factories.

70 years in Taiwan, the establishment of Canon's first overseas production bases
Production began to disperse out of the camera overseas
But the Nikon in Thailand in 91 years to set up its first overseas factory,
And the first 10 years is only the general level of production lens.
At most as the main factory Mito, Japan, Sendai and other auxiliary plant Bale.
To really upgrade to the main factory plant in Thailand is only the 2,3-year thing.
D70 until the start of 2004 production in Thailand.
So far even the D300 high-level models are produced in Thailand.
Nikon Thailand in 2007 turnover has also expanded to eight times in 2000.

Nikon President Michio Kariya, CEO, said:
"Check the machine or automatically adjust the camera, etc. The basic equipment is manufactured by the Japanese sent over, and
Production of new products, but also from the Sendai sent to guide, together with Thai people are very serious, and Japan is no different from the production, "

"Thai people's loyalty high, surprising.
For example, in the same industrial area, such as Honda's salary is much higher
However, there are actually a lot of people in Thailand for many years Nikon Retention, there is no quit.
Let such a person to produce the Thai-made products, the quality difference is absolutely impossible. Even better than the Japanese system. "

"03-04 years, when, D2H, D70, etc. have taken place in non-performing products, as
But then almost no similar problems, and
In 2005 into the production plant in Thailand 履 歴 Management System (サ Bldg & Suites Ritz-リ Te ィ ー シ ス テ ム,
Each product when, where, that the production line that lot,
Even where the repaired, all can be found.
When a problem occurs when the quality of surface and immediately to reflect improvements to the production site.
And 80 years when I was in quality control departments compared to
Now the product during the warranty failure Correction rate has dropped to 1 / 10 of the.
Obviously Nikon product quality is improved. "

"No matter where the product is Made by Nikon is constant."

◎ ◎ ◎ --- concluding chapter --- ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎ ◎
Nikon President Michio Kariya, CEO in 2005 after he took office.
Introduced D40, D3, D300 and other models have been well received,
The world market share in 2006 from 38% in 2008 increased to 39.5%.
The first of the Canon in the same period fell 40.7% from 47.4%,
Substantial gap between the two plants closer.

70 era began overseas production of the Canon, in the sudden change in policy in 2005 return to Japan.
On the other hand, 91 years before they began to set up factories abroad, to 2003 with the DSLR until after the popularity of the promotion of overseas production in one breath

Nikon.
Two competitors to take the production system of strategy, can be said that comparison.

But the findings to the Canon of the exchange rate sensitivity (the impact of exchange rate changes on the performance degrees) than the other quite a lot of high-precision industry peers

.
When the yen 10 yen to the dollar exchange-rate appreciation, the company-wide operating profit will be reduced by how much?
Canon is to reduce the 56.9%
Nikon is to reduce by 18.2%
Olympus is to reduce the 28%
Ricoh is to reduce the 13%
(Data for Japan Morgan Securities survey results)

When the Japanese over USD 1 = 120 yen today's era of low-yen,
Domestic production in Japan, the Japanese export-oriented enterprises in terms of how much significance?
Japanese Morgan Securities analyst Hisashi Moriyama Road:
"Depreciation of the yen in 2005, in Japan, domestic production, the
R & D and production site is close, and logistics costs can be reduced and so can improve the efficiency of.
But 5,6 years, IT environments have well-developed,
R & D and production site of the physical distance than in the past have so much influence, and
The significance of manufacturing in Japan are increasingly no "

However, Canon also has more ambitious strategy,
Canon's goal is to close no automated factory.
Robots to produce as long as the establishment of a system, you can not care about human pieces of fees to set up factories.
Canon products demand in Japan and Europe and the United States and other advanced countries.
If we can set up factories in these parts costs Gaoren high consumption countries, the
Not only to reduce logistics costs and changes in demand can quickly counterparts.

Now Canon's Oita plant is in a transitional period towards automated factories,
But last year after the autumn of rapid yen appreciation,
Coupled with the informal end of last year due to staff reductions in the issue by Japan's domestic critics.
Towards the ideal that no one before the chemical has been poured cold water on.
People are also keenly aware of Japan's domestic production of products in the high threshold.

In the end of manufacturing in Japan is also sustained,
Canon has been exposed subject,
Right (still persist in the Japanese-made) Panasonic, Sharp is also common.
"Made in Japan" can be said to face unprecedented resistance.
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In order to pursue interests in product cost down a bit done in the first CANON
Even the flagship 1Ds series, there are problems with the quality of
Compared to Nikon were still own the production, actually has that quality of output, so that quality control
Canon actually higher than 20% profit margin
Take a look at the number of practitioners, Canon or Nikon full-time staff actually 1 / 3 of nothing .. really make a ruthless big
How worthy of support as many users of Canon



After reading this story

Take my advice is to

Canon to buy shares
Then buy a Nikon product

Google translate. Very long article arrr!
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thanks CY~~~~ hahahahahhahaha hope the translation can help our english educated members
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can't believe the clean room is that bad...
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